The Dark Side of the Gastric Sleeve

There are apparently several famous people who got gastric sleeve or sleeve gastrectomy. It looks good. It's not a gastric bypass, so other than undermining protein and fat digestion in the stomach (some surgeons remove 90% of the stomach and put delicately, "send it to pathology"... in other words, discard it), the duodenum which is one of the main digestive organs is left in tact and after all, sleeve gastrectomy is or seems a less risky surgery than gastric bypass et al.

But the gastric sleeve appears to have a darker side. The stomach which is now, about as big as your thumb and twice as long as your thumb, doesn't hold much of anything...for example, patients describe difficulty in drinking liquids and some have observed brown urine from dehydration etc.

Mama June Shannon, mother of the cute little girl who starred on "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" TV Show, was quite overweight although likely not, the 450 lbs she claimed, had the gastric sleeve.

She said it was an, a lot more painful process than she expected as she also had a couple of skin removal surgeries but on tonight's show, "Mama June, From Not to Hot", she was able to strut her stuff at her ex hubby's "Sugar Bear's" wedding. June was never married to Sugar Bear as she was likely still married to the father of one of her other kids but they made a commitment ceremony last season on Honey Boo Boo's show.

On tonight's show, Mama June, apparently healed from her multiple surgeries, thin and blond, went to her ex's wedding and after, had a fun burning of her old large clothing.  Since June and her daughters have moved into a new rather nice home (TV pays well!), she and friends went out to the middle of the woods for the burning ceremony. However, when she went back home afterward, she suddenly, got very sick. They rushed her to the ER, complaining of severe abdominal pain.  She lived and they promise that next week's show, will feature the entire story of what happened to her. She was in enough pain that she couldn't stand up.

One thing I've seen happen with the sleeve, is a staple line leakage. A patient I know, had to go through multiple surgeries to fix that and included in the dark side of the sleeve, is the fact that unlike the gastric bypass, there is no way to reverse it.

Bottom line, none of these surgeries are really effective because we now know the appetite centers are in the brain...thus surgery or no surgery, we can only lose weight and keep it off by reconfiguring our thinking processes and living in a jungle of high fat, high calorie food, this is never an easy process.  Even Dr Now of the TV show, "My 600 lb Life", admits that surgery is only effective IF the patient diets and exercises...which is, of course, effective without surgery.

So why do they still do weight loss surgery? Because it's a cash cow. The average weight loss surgery surgeon makes $1.5 million bucks a year. People have done strange things for much less than that!

I felt bad for Mama June...she was a happy, reasonably healthy, overweight person and now, she has all sorts of issues with her mutilated digestive tract. 

It's a vicious circle. Providers generally don't follow post ops and complications from all surgeries, are handled by emergency medicine. Overweight people, desperate to lose weight, tend to not do the research they should do, relying on their providers to inform them but without following up on post ops, the providers may not know much more of the long term repercussions than do the patients.

Buyer, beware...be very careful in surgically removing or mutilating the stomach.  That our digestive systems work, wasn't the reason we gained weight and disabling it, is likely to cause more problems than we bargained for.

weight loss surgery not really effective, admits top surgeon

It's pretty common knowledge for those who access the Internet, that weight loss surgery is not only ineffective but risky.

But recently, Dr "Now" of "My 600 lb life" admitted on TV that weight loss surgery isn't effective after 5 years, a telling admission for him since he actively, is pursuing clients for his surgery although there is some evidence that he might be doing the safer gastric sleeve, more than the gastric bypass.

Weight loss surgery, all of it, is based on an idea we now know to be false i.e. that the appetite center is in the stomach. 

The appetite center is in the brain which is why weight loss surgery isn't effective unless you diet and exercise which of course, causes a weight loss without surgery!

The inventor of the gastric bypass, Edward Mason, found, in the 1960's, his ulcer surgery patients were losing weight and thought he could do similar surgery on overweight folks with the same results.  Thus began a long era of surgeons quite literally, going to the bank, doing weight loss surgery procedures.  Because there was so little followup, surgeons were neither aware of the high rate of regain nor the alarming number of deaths and/or repercussions.

When one procedure proved ineffective as well as risky, another one came into vogue.  Right now, the gastric sleeve, a surgery which calls for the permanent removal of up to 90% of the stomach is the surgery "du jour".  

Trouble is, the remaining "thumb sized" stomach which results from a sleeve gastrectomy, probably does not digest B12, fats or proteins really well.  And this surgery, although safer than the gastric bypass, is not reversible.

In a society where the medical profession is profit making, abuse is common.  Thankfully, the internet can inform people but sadly, many people either don't have access to the Internet or cannot really utilize their access well enough to do research.

Less than 5% of dieters can keep the weight off and that number who can keep off weight, is only 2% higher among weight loss surgery patients...that is less than 7% of weight loss surgery patients can keep off all of their weight for any amount of time.

Bottom line, if you want to take off weight, you might be best to just do the diet and exercise part and skip the surgery.  (Diet, unless you do it very carefully, has its own set of risks).

Surgery for weight loss

A sad thing for me is when weight loss surgery post ops come back and say "Oh Sue, I wish I'd listened to your warnings".

The warnings I've posted can actually be found on most weight loss surgeons' websites but they aren't in a very prominent place.

Moreover, people want to believe there is a quick way to doing this weight loss thing - so maybe many folks don't look for the small print like 1-2% of gastric bypass patients die within 30 days of surgery or like undermining the delicately balanced system we have for nourishing our bodies with the hundreds of nutrients we need on a daily basis, isn't a very good idea.   As one doctor put in it in a book I read in the 1970's, this type of thing is similar to trying to run our cars on French perfume... how long would they run? Sadly, we often treat our cars better than we treat our bodies! 

The body adapts in a way to various forms of starvation, but of course does not last very well in the long run as it starts to consume protein and macro nutrients from itself, like the brain, the heart, calcium from the bones etc.

It's meant as a short term way to survive a starvation period and not for something in the long term.

I remember when I started studying this stuff in 1990.  I called a medical provider, an intelligent well educated one, and asked him to tell me what he knew about the GI tract. He gave me a short basic explanation.  I asked for more details but he said that was all they got in medical school!

I ended up reading bunches of books and medical journals to get the rest of the information, a research which took more than 10 years of study (not counting the many books etc I read before my specific study on weight loss surgery - I'd been studying weight control since the 1970's and still am studying it).  Sadly, this is not easily available to the public and apparently many medical providers don't have the time or ? to study this in more detail.

Eating healthy and exercising at least 5 days a week (the only thing which strengthens our hearts is cardio exercise or as it was formerly called, "aerobic exercise") is the best way to go.  That's what they say if one studies the subject and I can attest from personal experience, it works.

Eating healthy usually means avoiding fast or fatty foods and eating mostly veggies and some fruits.

Not eating healthy and exercising raises our risks for heart disease, stroke, thrombosis and more.  I've lived through this thing of heart disease and clogged arteries - not in myself but in my hubby who never heard from a medical provider about a heart healthy diet or how important aerobic exercise is. I made him exercise daily but he only did 20 minutes most days.  Never-the-less, that 20 minutes is probably the reason why he's still living albeit required five major surgeries to fix his heart and clear out the clogging from his arteries. 

And all this, while seeing medical providers regularly and paying lots of bucks - where were the warnings he should have gotten?  

And basically, not looking for the quick way out of a weight problem because there is no quick way that is healthy and works.  Terminal cancer patients don't have a weight problem but I suspect most of us would not want to go there.  But having one's stomach and bowels cut up and/or rearranged in a very unnatural manner, as done in surgeries for weight loss, isn't a good idea either.

As Beverly Sills has said "there is no quick road to a place worth going!"

More Weight Loss Surgery ads on TV disguised as shows

Filmed in High Def and artistic cinematography and certainly scripted (as all "reality TV" is), the show, "My 600 lb life" is certainly watched by many and the producer who is the son of a Houston weight loss surgery surgeon, is definitely going to the bank.  A great improvement on earlier shows like the old series "Big Medicine", artistically speaking, one can be certain these shows have the same effect on the TV audience as the earlier offerings.  After every show on weight loss surgery, more than one weight loss surgery clinic remarked that their phones were "ringing off the hook" with prospective buyers.

  People featured on "My 600 lb life" i.e. the patients, not only do not get compensated for their appearance on the shows, but they also, have to pay for their weight loss surgery and/or skin removal surgeries.  There has been some speculation that the patients get a bit of a discount on the procedures but a couple of thousand bucks off on surgeries which can cost from $15,000.00 and up, isn't much of a financial aid.

This season, a new show has been added.   They call it, "Skin Tight" and is ostensibly about the plastic surgery that weight loss surgery patients (who lose the weight too fast for the skin to respond) often need.  Truly (and as the show portrays), many weight loss surgery patients have so much loose skin that they feel their bodies are more uncomfortable than they were when they were at their starting weight. 

The photography in "Skin Tight" is interesting.  The so called "skin surgeries" are long and very painful, a fact which is (of course) omitted from the show. Most patients I've talked to, describe it as more painful than the original weight loss surgery.  The skin surgeries involve long incisions and long hours under anesthesia and long healing.  But of course, the patients seen on "Skin Tight" all smilingly say it was totally, worth it because they "look so good" now.

However, if you watch the cinematography closely, you will notice that the patients who have undergone "skin surgeries" (most of them, have multiple procedures), are photographed from the front in the before photos and from the side or even covered up in  clothing in the after photos.  So even though the smiling patient says (according to the script) how wonderful life is, I wonder if the long scars and months of pain are really so wonderful.

It bothers me a lot how much of a business, the medical field has become.  Often, more expensive procedures are sold when a less expensive procedure (or no procedure) would do fine.  And often, despite the glowing reports we see on TV, the end result is fraught with problems and/or repercussions. 

There is no doubt in my mind that the public wants these surgical procedures because being of size in our society is considered worse than anything else.  But it seems that surgeons face a rather interesting dilemma.  Either they do invasive surgeries like the gastric bypass  which, albeit causes a large weight loss quickly (mostly muscle - good tissue you don't want to lose), can, in the long run, cause patients,  to suffer, many complications and can even shorten lifespan because of the malnutrition of fats and proteins and the lack of some 100 micro-nutrients a day which no longer can be digested.  Or they do the safer weight loss surgeries like the lap band or the gastric sleeve which do not offer the desired quick weight loss but also do not cause the complications of the more invasive surgeries.  

Surgeons who do the latter, often have to offer their patients diet plans including shakes etc.  But the truth of the matter is, that all weight loss surgery patients will not lose the weight unless they diet and exercise - these two things which, of course, cause a weight loss without surgery.

Best to remember the Buddy Valasco ("Cake Boss") statement, "It's TV, Baby!"

Or to recall a testimony by one of the major TV networks in the 1950's when they were caught cheating on the quiz shows.  Said one of the CEO's, "Well, the people were entertained, we made money and no one was hurt!"  

Unfortunately with today's shows, featuring weight loss surgeries, although the public is entertained, many people are hurt.  A sad thing to sacrifice a human's quality of life and longevity, for entertainment.

New old program for WLS patients?

I went to a seminar on Weight Loss this morning - the weight loss surgery surgeon involved, meant well - he wanted to provide his patients with a program to do after surgery - the need of which was witnessed by the fact that most of the folks in the room, either gastric sleeve or lap band post ops,  were still quite overweight (although there were a couple of pre ops in the room also).  The surgeon also, has some problems with midline obesity and this, he says, is the latest thing that is working for him but he'd only lost 15 lbs and still had some 15-20 lbs to lose (which he has all in his waist).  He is a believer in low carbing but like many of my friends, that, alone, had not worked for him.  (Dr Atkins the founder of the low carb diet as we know it, explained in his last book that calories do count and you can gain just as much weight on too much of no carb foods as you can on carbs, a fact which has not been seen much in the media - if at all.  Also Dr Atkins had heart disease, which is again, a fact which has not often been seen in the mass media.).

The so called "protocol" seemed to me, a rehash of other low cal diets  - similar to the old "Dr Simeon program from the 1950's... in the first stage, you cut the calories down drastically (which of course, damages the metabolism) - they have some kind of protein drink you buy (and also you can intake your protein in other types of product which they also sell.  They have 3 stages of this program and in the maintenance stage you can again eat carbohydrates in small quantities. Although sugar is portrayed as the demon in this program - the latest thing in diet plans - apparently aspartame - nutrasweet which is somewhat toxic and far more unhealthy than sugar ever thought of being, is "ok".

The new twist is, this company seems to be targeting physicians (many of whom sadly, know little about weight loss science and regard obesity as a medical problem for which a solution - pills or surgery - can solve and be a cash cow at the same time).

I asked the guy hawking this product - what about maintenance... and he said he would talk about it later.  He dismissed it with "well, when you creep up in weight as 'we all do', you go back on the "protocol" for a week or two and take off (crash off?) the weight."  He gained some popularity in the room when he said that people don't have to exercise with this "protocol".  In fact, he went on to say that even if people were working out a lot, it was advised they did not work out while on the low calorie part of the protocol.

As we all know, yo yo syndrome is the best way to really mess up the metabolism and which causes most folks to be more overweight after repeated attempts at crashing off weight.  But they didn't talk about metabolism, of course.  Also if you weight cycle as small an amount as five or ten pounds several times, it not only raises the risk for heart disease but also causes the individual to end up with a higher percentage of body fat.

Here's how it works... when you lose weight on a very low cal diet, you only lose 30% bodyfat - the rest of what you lose is muscle and bone (tissue you do NOT want to lose).  However when you regain even as little as 5 or 10 lbs, it's all bodyfat (no muscle).  The salesperson telling us about this diet, said "everyone's weight creeps up!"

Bottom line is, this diet is quite pricey - according to the physician's website (which is more honest about the cost than the manufacturer's website)... Start up fees are $279 dollars and when you go off the "protocol" and regain and want to go back on "the protocol" for a couple of weeks, it costs $108 dollars a week.

Consider that this "protocol" is being sold to people who have already invested thousands of dollars in weight loss surgery.  Looking around the room at the people who attended this meeting most of whom had had weight loss surgery, and were still very overweight, it was clear that weight loss surgery often is ineffective for permanent weight loss.

Big Push for Weight Loss surgery

Tom holds photo of his daughter who died shortly after her gastric bypass - parents of patients who die or become sick, suffer very much for years after

In case you haven't noticed, there has been a big push for Weight Loss surgery in the mass media.  A Fox News article announced that "diet and exercise may not be enough to lose weight" and goes on to state that the "only proven effective treatment for obesity in the long term, is surgery."  Proven?  Hardly.  While it's true that about 5% of dieters can keep off the weight, having surgery only increases that percentage by 2% i.e. 7% of bariatric patients can keep their weight off (Mayo Clinic study, Swedish Obesity study and several others).  Hardly worth reconfiguring the digestive tract in a very unnatural manner which will deny the person much of their digestive ability.

On TV, the old "Big Medicine" shows have been regurgitated under the title "My Weight is Killing Me".  This show, although more honest about how surgical patients have to diet and exercise after surgery (which works, by the way, without surgery), still portrays surgery as "the only way" for people who are clinically obese.

Another show, "My 600 lb life" produced by Dr Younan Nowzaradan, MD (a bariatric - weight loss surgery surgeon), portrays patients who are 600 - 700 lbs - all of them "need" surgery, of course, according to the show... and after they slim down with surgery to a "svelte" 400 or 500 lbs, their lives are supposedly saved.  The show seems to ignore that weights of 400 and 500 lbs are still considered clinically obese, only now after surgery, the patient is not digesting some 100 micro-nutrients (like zinc, etc) which we need on a daily basis to stay healthy.  Not withstanding the patient after a gastric bypass is also not digesting well, macronutrients like proteins and fats.

Interestingly enough, a recent show about a lady named Susan, followed her as she lost 150 lbs before surgery and then, after surgery (gastric bypass), very little more weight and very slowly.  One wonders why they didn't just tell her to go home and continue what she was doing instead of mutilating her stomach and bowel... Well, I guess that's a no brainer - the surgeon takes home $5000 bucks (at least) with every surgery.... so if s/he does five surgeries a week - that's one a day with 2 rest days, his/her weekly pay is $250,000.00!  People have done odd things for far less money than this.

Several studies including some 30 year studies on 30,000 people by the Cooper Institute, have found that it's not weight that endangers health but rather lifestyle and that anyone with a healthy lifestyle (i.e. making healthy food choices most of the time and exercising at least 5 days a week for 20 minutes or more) can live a long life even if their weight is in the obese or clinically obese range.

That being said, Dr Rudy Leibel pointed out that obesity is mostly genetic (60% genetic).  Also being from a family where several relatives were or are overweight, I can attest to the fact that most lived long healthy lives - without having their digestive tract surgically altered.

One of my husband's cousins is celebrating her 80th birthday - she has been clinically overweight all of her adult life and totally healthy (well, in her late 70's, she had a hip replacement surgery).

There are some advantages to calorie restriction - for me, my severe GERD goes into remission as long as I mildly calorie restrict but to say "everyone" needs a digestive tract which no longer works well, is not logical...  We did not get overweight because our GI tract worked and so rendering it somewhat non- functional will only add to the original problem... another no brainer.

If you are considering Weight Loss surgery, please visit this website....  (http://obesitysurgery-info.com)  It gives informed consent information about weight loss surgery - you will find it quite different from what you see on TV but then, remember, TV is for entertainment, not for good education!

Gastric Sleeve revisited

The sleeve gastrectomy is the popular procedure these days.  Those promoting this surgery suggest it's safer than the gastric bypass because no bowel is bypassed.  But the problem with the procedure is that in order to promote weight loss, surgeons must cut away 90-95% of the stomach, leaving a remnant about twice as long as your thumb and the same size.

True to the "conspiracy of silence" about weight loss surgery, the dark side of this procedure has been mostly not told.

But as the procedure gets more popular, the dark side is emerging.

Some patients are beginning to tell their stories and there is a very dark side to this surgery - one patient mentioned that it's very difficult to get in even the minimum of 6 glasses of water daily and describes the shock of seeing brown urine (extremely dehydrated and hard on the kidneys). 

This makes sense because this procedure retains the lower stomach valve but the tiny thumb sized stomach doesn't really conduct the peristaltic wave very well so perhaps the valve which is dependent on the muscular movement of the stomach, doesn't really work very well (probably why they did not include it in the gastric bypass).  A swallow or two fills the tiny stomach and takes a while to empty - think of the difficulty of swallowing water slowly, a swallow or two at a time and it becomes a real chore just to get even a glass or two of water in, during the day.

Additionally, the tiny stomach likely does not do much digesting of either proteins or fats (we do need some fats) or calcium or B12.

Finally, patients describe a constant and very serious case of GERD or gastric reflux and well as problems with leaks and "fistulas".  The tiny size of the stomach would also tend to cause a detention of the esophagus, a problem seen in the gastric bypass also.

If the patients keep the weight off, it's by starvation and / or dehydration and/or illness - this is anything but healthy!

Patients should realize that doing something unhealthy is not worth getting the weight off - especially as there is no reversal possible of this procedure since the part of the stomach removed is discarded

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The sleeve gastrectomy is a permanent change to the stomach in other words...

Bottom line, all that glitters is not only not gold but may not even be really glittering when you live with it... Caveat Emptor - or "let the buyer beware".

Permanent Weight loss only Possible with Surgery?

 

 

So say the providers in the latest article circulating the net...  that the ONLY way to keep off weight is to have one's stomach basically deleted!

 

Frankly, this article seems like it's another plug for surgery (picturing the usual midline shots of overweight people, of course) because they say permanent weight loss is just about impossible unless you get surgery preferably the surgery "du jour" now, the gastric sleeve which in most cases, calls for the removal of 95% of the stomach, leaving things wide open for not only nutritional deficiencies like B12 which is digested in the stomach but lack of necessary fats and more. (You can supplement protein if you drink protein drinks but things like calcium from supplements is not used well and can cause kidney stones - I found that out the hard way). Yes people can live without a stomach but how well they live, is questionable.

And the sleeve, unlike the gastric bypass, is in no way, reversible.  If people do some research on weight loss surgery, they might find that if it were so great, why do they have to keep coming up with "new procedures" (when the old procedures not only don't work for most people in the long run but also tend to cause rather gnarly health problems.)....

One individual who did stay slim and seemed the poster child for a drastric weight loss surgery which took out not only most of their stomach but most of their small bowel too, found out when they fell and broke several bones, that they had an extreme case of osteoporosis despite being careful about supplementing.

Watching a gastric sleeve surgery is interesting - the picture is worth 1000 words? As they staple away most of the stomach, leaving something about as big as your thumb (and about twice as long as your thumb), they take what looks like the stomach and toss it into a pan destined for "pathology" (i.e. the step before it becomes garbage).

And that's why if people have the gastric sleeve, even if they get very sick, there is no chance for reversal of this surgery.  As surgeon, Dr Terry Simpson puts it, "fat and healthy greatly beats slim and sick!"

Truth be known, even with basically no stomach, most people end up regaining weight and if you read the fine print on the surgical sites, the surgeons EXPECT people ... most people to regain at least 50% of what they lost... so... if you lose 100 lbs with the surgery, your surgeon will expect you to regain at least 50 lbs which still makes you significantly overweight even though you will be a success in the surgeon's book!

It has always amazed me how open surgeons are about these er...drawbacks to surgery.... how it's not going to work unless you diet and exercise (well that works without surgery too!).... how it causes repercussions....how 1% of patients die in the first month,  how if people eat too much, it comes up again (they joke about that).  And of course, there are lots of things one can eat too much of like milkshakes which go down well.

And yet people still keep opting for surgery - only to find out the sad truth later on - that with or without surgery, keeping weight off requires OUR OWN surgery to the brain - how well I know about that one.

"There is no easy road to a place worth going" (Beverly Sills)

Questionable studies on obesity and weight loss surgery abound

Yet another eye catching headline hit recently.  "Obesity primes the colon for cancer!", it triumphantly announced.

And what was this "landmark study" you might ask?  They fed mice lard and then tested, and only the ones which were fat, had the "markers" for cancer.  Huh?  Are people supposed to believe this would apply to humans? 

Although we might have our suspicions about some humans, I can safely say we are NOT mice and a mouse GI tract barely resembles a human GI tract, if at all, and also, the mice which got fat, didn't get cancer -they only "had the markers" for cancer which means they might or might not get cancer by the time their short lives are ended.

If that's not questionable enough, try the the following study - the headline on this was about how Weight Loss surgery "cures" diabetes.  This study was on humans however, among those who had had a gastric bypass (which forces starvation for the first couple of years - starvation will always bring blood sugar levels down), barely more than 1/3 of the patients saw a remission, even in the first three years after surgery.

I wouldn't call those results impressive, especially considering that gastric bypass is so invasive.  Among patients who had the sleeve gastrectomy, the popular "surgery du jour" which only reduces the stomach (to the size of a thumb and about twice as long as a thumb), only 25% experienced a remission of their diabetes in the first three years.  Keeping in mind that without a stomach, digestion of fats and proteins is basically, not happening and patients must for the rest of their lives, consume protein drinks which are expensive, not paid by insurance and not good tasting to avoid protein deficiency diseases which have not been seen since the 1800's... they should also take B12 shots at least once a week since a greatly reduced stomach likely no longer digests vitamin B12 which can cause many and varied problems.... this doesn't seem worth the expense and pain of surgery for the small number of remissions of diabetes early on.

In a buyer, seller's society, consumers must be careful of what they buy -to avoid the myths seen on TV etc - and sadly, for post ops who experience one of the many complications, there is little available to support them.

Definitely, "buyer beware!" or...
  If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't...

Gastric bypass - the holy grail of weight loss surgery?

The holy grail of weight loss, is hoping that somehow food will not appeal to us so we will lose weight.  A new study states that weight loss long term ( 10 years) is better after gastric bypass than after getting the lap band.  And why is this?  Because food is not as appealing to gastric bypass patients, the researchers found.

Well, true, a good percentage of gastric bypass patients get reactive hypoglycemia which means you feel really crummy after eating a plethora of foods, not just sweet stuff. (The patients refer to this type of becoming ill as "dumping")

The problem is, if you are getting sick after eating and you lose weight, that doesn't really count.  Because cancer patients and terminal AIDS patients also lose weight from being sick, but it's so not worth getting sick to lose weight.

What they are hoping you don't know about is for one, the Roslin study which found that 3 months after a gastric bypass, the appetite comes back worse than before surgery in many patients.

This clinical study of 63 gastric bypass patients (that means the researcher, a gastric bypass surgeon himself, actually examined the patients), also found that many of these patients had "glucose abnormalities" which would, in part, explain their voracious appetites.

Bottom line - to lose weight by getting sick after you eat?  Life is just too short for that one, you may well find.  5% of people on non surgical diet nutritional programs can keep off the weight.  7% of weight loss surgery patients (all surgeries, several studies) can keep off the weight.  But that extra 2% which isn't very much of a differential, is counting those with "glucose abnormalities" and other health problems after weight loss surgery.

Dr Terry Simpson tells us that success with Weight Loss surgery (any procedure) is 10% the surgery and 90% the patient.

So after taking rather serious and sometimes life threatening risks to have one's digestive tract rearranged, you can see that it is not very much more effective in keeping off weight than is a non surgical program.

Looking at things this way, the seeker should also be aware that merely embracing a healthy lifestyle of mostly wise food choices and cardio exercise 5 days a week will keep you healthy at any weight.(Lee CD, Blair SN, Jackson AS. Cardiorespiratory fitness, body composition, and all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality in men. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 1999 Mar;69(3):373-80)

Ask yourself, in view of the foregoing, is weight loss surgery really worth the risks?

We get angry letters sometimes....

We get angry letters sometimes ...

Wayne B, a gastric sleeve patient (and I would bet a "new op") writes the following:

Regarding the concern about nutrient absorption. You don't absorb nutrients in your stomach.. You absorb them in your small intestine and that is not touched by the surgery. Sue W rabbits on about here six years worth of success being enough o prove her point but demands ten years of success from a WLS recipient. Bit of a hypocritical double standard. on gastric sleeve story

Wayne, if you do not DIGEST food in your stomach then you cannot absorb it in your gut.  You digest proteins and fat in the stomach ... And vitamin B12. Before you get so self righteous, wait ten years... Wait until you get post gastrectomy syndrome... I've never met even ONE long term patient who was happy they had the surgery but because they get so much flack from the Weight loss surgery community, many are afraid to speak out...did you ever wonder why there is such a high rate of suicide among weight loss surgery patients or have you not read about that one yet?

Wayne further writes...

"SueW. You sound like a bit of a self righteous b*tch but hey thats your choice. I tried everything, and I mean everything so don't come back with some Whica health drink BS. Gastric sleeve saved my life so how about you crawl back into your health nut whole and leave people who are trying the best they can alone. on gastric sleeve story"

(Note I have left Wayne's original spelling! :) :) ) My word, Wayne, why so defensive that you feel the need to be ad hominem (that means insulting in case you wondered!).  I'm trying to get informed consent to folks like you because I have met countless patients who find about the repercussions of weight loss surgery, after the fact.  About 50% of those who know the risks, will go ahead and have surgery...the other half will skip it... (especially when they find out they need to diet and exercise to keep losing weight or at a lower weight!)  People deserve to know if there are any deal-breakers in the repercussions.  Many people who have surgery think they won't have to count calories etc to keep slim and nothing could be further from the truth.  The more invasive the procedure, the longer a patient might lose his/her appetite but when it does heal, the appetite comes back, with vengeance.

I've been in this for 14 years and from what I've seen, most of the folks who really hawked the surgery, as pre ops and new ops, when they start getting sick, (and often regain the weight), they get quiet and don't warn pre ops about what could happen after surgery.

Bottom line, no weight loss surgery saves your life...YOU save your life!  As Dr Terry Simpson says, "Success with weight loss surgery is 10% the surgery, and 90% the patient!"

And successful weight loss surgery patients do exactly what we non ops do. ...they journal or keep track of their food intake and exercise... Keeping weight off is work on a daily basis whether people have had surgery or not.  But in addition, weight loss surgery patients have to have frequent expensive blood work, drink protein shakes to avoid protein deficiency and take a lot of vitamins in addition to logging their food and exercising.

A sobering fact... A friend of mine who weighs in excess of 550 lbs says she's outlived 48 of her friends who had weight loss surgery.

According to the few studies which have looked at long term patients, only 2% more of wls patients keep off the weight they've lost.  That is 5% of people keep the weight off without surgery.  And 7% of weight loss surgery patients keep off all of their weight.

There is no such thing as "life saving weight loss surgery"... People save their lives, not any weight loss surgery.  Please don't fall for the used car hype!

gastric sleeve story

If you look at this blog, you will see the glowing report from a new op on the gastric sleeve. She didn't want the gastric bypass (admits she was 'barely qualified' for WLS by US standards) because she felt it was "too drastic". But although things are rearranged in the gastric bypass, nothing is taken out of the body.

Not true of the sleeve - this drastic surgery calls for the removal of 90 percent or more of the stomach, creating a Frankensteinian pouch which holds only a couple of ounces of food.

The new op goes on to credit her normal weight to the sleeve and the reduction of ghrelin in her blood not realizing that her lack of hunger now, is simply that her stomach is going through a healing process. Human appetite is NOT controlled by one hormone, scientists will tell us and I would ask, how many people are fat because they only eat when hungry anyway?

That ghrelin has anything to do with appetite is merely a theory however, there is a body of evidence suggesting that those with less ghrelin in the system also have less growth hormone and this can cause premature aging. That, they don't tell you in WLS seminars.

Back to the new op, she runs a couple of hours a day and has done a triathlon or two. Since she is working out like those on the "Biggest Loser" she has lost weight like they do. But when she's all healed and finds her lack of a stomach to be more of a liability than an asset, like when eating healthy food like veggies with bulk is difficult which makes many tend toward foods which go down more comfortably like milkshakes, then she will likely leave her glowing testimonials up and not warn newbies of the other side of the story which she has regrettably discovered - all too late.

Some of us call this the "conspiracy of silence", the lack of negative information about weight loss surgery which leads 200,000 people a year to get cut without really knowing what the repercussions might be.

Sadly, the sleeve is viewed as less invasive than the gastric bypass and this is so not true. Since most folks know someone who has had a gastric bypass with a bad result (the least of which was regain), many are now choosing the new guy on the block, the sleeve, as the weight loss surgery panacea.

Still looking for the easy way out. But like the perfect solution, the easy way out doesn't exist and grabbing of something which is being sold like used cars, might make things a lot worse.

CAVEAT EMPTOR.

Remember even the surgeons admit, and most older op WLS patients will tell you that....

"Success with weight loss surgery is 10 percent the surgery, 90 percent the patient" (Dr Terry Simpson, MD and WLS surgeon)